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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Sep 3, 2007 10:42pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Everyone agrees that LiveDead is the best Dead album.

The one that Garcia hated... in the early '70s, I read something somewhere where he said the live tapes used for the album were about what they were doing that night, and they were playing a lot better since the recordings...
but that when he heard the recordings a while later he thought those performances had a lot of energy...

I don't recall if he was talking about Anthem or Live Dead, or maybe even the Vintage Dead (1966-09-16) lp.

When I first listened to Europe '72 (in '73) I thought it was unfocused, had no spine-tingling riffs (like Live Dead)... I tried to get into it but found a whole side of The Other One over long and rambling with nothing to grab onto...

2 non-Dead Head friends of mine (now) have said Europe '72 is their favorite Dead lp...

Now how 'bout a thread picking their best single... as in, 45 7"??


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Poster: AshesRising Date: Sep 3, 2007 11:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Everyone agrees that LiveDead is the best Dead album.

cream-puff-war: Good Evening -- it's always great to see your name re-appear here. I still have not been able to find the source where Jerry states that he really disliked one of those early albums. By a process of elimination and other info regarding "Anthem," my best guess is that "Anthem" is the one he disliked. (Though it is just a guess and the album is great, esp compared to most of the stuff in the 1980's after "Reckoning.")

All notes are from: http://www.deaddisc.com/GDFD_Grateful_Dead.htm

In regards to their first album, "The Grateful Dead," Jerry said, "I think our album is honest. It sounds just like us. It even has mistakes on it. But it also has a certain amount of excitement on it. It sounds like we felt good when we were making it. We made it in a short period, four days, and it's the material we've been doing onstage for quite a long time. It sounds like one of our good sets."

In regards to Aoxomoxoa, Jerry stated in a "Rolling Stone" interview, "...one of my pet records, 'cause it was the first stuff that I thought was starting to sound like how I wanted to hear songs sound." He also had some non-flattering comments about the album, however he clearly states that it was the genesis of crafting lyrics with Hunter so overall it appears he was satisfied with Aoxomoxoa.

Live/Dead: one of their best albums. Jerry would appreciate "Show Companion's" post.

That leaves "Anthem of the Sun:"
Though I don't have a quote from Jerry at the moment, here are some notes that shed some light on why he may have disliked it (if, in fact, the premise is true):

After recording their first album quickly the second took many months to put together, firstly with largely unsuccessful studio sessions then with lengthy assemblage of material from live shows.

Producer Hassinger bailed out part way through the process supposedly after Weir requested "the sound of thick air" during Born Cross-Eyed.

It's thought that the majority of the live music used on this album is from the February 14, 1968 show at the Carousel though this is much overdubbed with parts from other shows.

So, that's it for now. Again, great to see your name heree; it's wonderful to read your posts.

I hope all is well, --- AshesRising

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Sep 4, 2007 12:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Everyone agrees that LiveDead is the best Dead album.

hey AshesRising, doin' ok my friend!

I think you're right; Anthem of the Sun is most likely what Jerry was talking about in the thing I read, (which may have been in Rolling Stone).

From the Billboard chart numbers, it seems that Workingman's Dead is the one that put them on the map after several slow sellers since their debut...

it was really a favorite locally at the time, and American Beauty was just icing on the cake, though it did have the minor hit, Truckin'...

but listen to the tapes, and notice how the crowds of '69 and '70 always cheered when they started up St. Stephen...

Everyone agrees (?) that was their most popular in-concert tune during those 2 years...




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